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MISC => MISC => Topic started by: Dr. Gigglez on May 02, 2019, 04:36:07 pm
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It shall live on right here!
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More of an opinion, be cool to make TV and movies as a sub-forum to weed out spoilers.
It can be broad topics (Cop Shows, Medical Shows, Sitcoms, Power Rangers & Super Sentai, Other Tokusatsu, New Movie Spoilers, franchises). just a thought I was thinking "maybe" about.
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Good Idea , Yeah we don't want people to spoil stuff. Just added some new stuff!
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Despite all the formatting available in the preview section a spoiler tag is not present.
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Might try and go to East Coast Comic Con Next Weekend, we briefly touched on it on the Grove Show last night.
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Tardar Sauce, aka Grumpy Cat, went to the Rainbow Bridge this past Tuesday...
Story (https://www.facebook.com/435475646488178/posts/2225599357475789?s=100001917966170&sfns=mo)
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From what i've heard about College Composition II, I might potentially want to talk about the Certified Autism Centers (and most likely trying to get an interview with Sesame Place, since they were the first park to gain the distinction and its equidistant from my house and my university). It interests me because I am on the spectrum and it is something that is pretty new. Not going to make any calls or anything till I know exactly what the professor expects.
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Would a park in Canada be "parks in the US" or "Parks Over Seas"? Just thinking about Canada's Wonderland, Marineland, La Ronde, and (to an extent) Six Flags Mexico
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I guess you can count north and central America and Neighboring to the US they are not really over seas. Though if added there it might keep that section a bit more active since most of us know more about the more local parks.
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We could probably rename the "Parks In The US" section to "Parks In North America", that way it would cover both the US and Canada, along with Mexico.
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It's something to think about.
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i leave tomorrow morning for a coaster trip. I already know steel curtain will not be ready but im hoping the other coasters i want to ride will be, such as copperhead strike and lightning rod. :)
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How many tries is this for LR?
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How many tries is this for LR?
4th try coming up on wednesday. the coaster has been running good so hopefully no catastrophe for the next couple days. As of now the weather looks good. :)
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Looks like Six Flags wants to build hotel. I personally feel they should go down more of the road with Carowinds, but to each their own.
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Carowinds have a campground right?
A few CF parks have hotels other have campgrounds.
I think it can be a good thing for some parks especially the bigger ones. But I don't think ever park needs a hotel.
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Great Escape has a hotel and Darian Lake has a campground, I know that for certain.
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Yes TGE has a Hotel and indoor water park that was planed and built by another company. SFI had nothing to do with it. Derian lake has a hotel and a campground which SFI also had nothing to do with .
This would be very new ground for the company.
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I got my Golden Ticket ballot this week. I wish we had traveled a bit more this last year so I could vote better. I think next year will be better so I still voted so I will get a ballot next year too. I think I filed a good ballot but we had traveled better a few years ago. Casey is now flying as a flight attendant and we have some trips planned for late this year and next so better to come.
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At least you've traveled enough to be eligible.
I think they need to up the number of ballots and add more regions.
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We have traveled over the years and have almost 600 coasters with over 100 of them wood. The weakness is with many of the new coasters over the last few years not being ridden yet. We did get Steel Vengeance, but haven't got LR or any of the new ones this year yet. We hope to rectify that soon.
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Phillies vs Dodgers...on YouTube. Never thought I would see that printed in a newspaper.
Note: My mom works at an arboretum and they get the paper and I was looking through the most recent one (from the 15) and it said game today at 12:35 on YouTube (and a home game for Philadelphia).
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I got a push notification about that but I was out.
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I'm now on Wattpad
https://www.wattpad.com/user/Lemurseighteen
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We are in Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge this weekend. It is certainly a tourist Mecca on par with Branson, Wisconsin Dells, Myrtle Beach, and the Canadian side of Niagara Falls! We did not do the Ripley's museum, the upside down house, the Dolly Parton Stampede, or the Hatfield McCoy dinner but those do lend a flavor to the place. LOL. Actually we had a blast so far with a big chunk of the day at Dollywood on Saturday and then spending Saturday late afternoon and night riding mountain coasters, eating decadent foods, and enjoying some incredible views.
It would be difficult to do this area on the cheap but it does have a lot to offer beyond the tourist trap stuff. Today we are back at Dollywood for opening and then fly home to the real world late Sunday afternoon. It is quite an area. There really is something for almost everyone here and certainly plenty for enthusiasts.
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Since I still don't know Dollywood's 2020 hours yet so this is a theoretical plan that Opening Day (most likely if it happens at all) would full day at the park and then head to the Nascar Speed Park for that credit, with the Jurassic Boats and The Island on Sunday (and probably not a full day at Dollywood), and Anakeesta Monday. Currently, I would plan to go down Friday and go back Wednesday, but wouldn't mind flying back Tuesday if things go that way.
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Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg is a hopping place in general and has 20 credits available for enthusiasts. Check out these:
Dollywood
Rocky Top Mountain Coaster
The Island
Smokey Mountain Alpine Coaster
Goats on the Roof
Gatlinburg Mountain Coaster
Rowdy Bear Gatlingburg
Rowdy Bear Pigeon Forge
Anakeesta
Ober Gatlinburg
NASCAR
Most of these except Dollywood are open pretty late each night so much can get done in a couple of days. It certainly is a pricey place though. Getting all these credits will run in the $200-$300 range. Good luck on your trip. Now that we have done all these places, glad to answer any questions yu might have.
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I only counted 18 via RCDB
Dollywood-9 (Lightning Rod, Thunderhead, Dragonflier, Whistle Punk Chaser, Mystery Mine, Blazing Fury, Firechaser Express, Wild Eagle, Tennessee Tornado), with a recently removed kiddie cred so there are probably people with 10 credits
Kiddie coasters-2 (Spinning Parrot, Speedway coaster)
and 7 mountain coasters, but I would only plan to get Rail Runner (and the Jurassic Boats, but I would skip if the money isn't there) this trip.
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RCDB has yet to add the newest type of coaster that has appeared in that area. Check out the Sky Glider and the Alpine Flyer on the Rowdy Bear website.
I was really looking forward to Rail Runner at Anakesta and when you include the cost of the Chondola to the top of the mountain it was one of the most expensive coaster credits ever. It was actually very disappointing. The monorail combined with the layout of the track made it rough at high speeds. The layout required extensive braking which diminished the ride IMO.
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Back to Action in the 'Boro
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Cedar Fair spikes on report of Six Flags interest
Oct. 2, 2019 12:04 PM ETCedar Fair, L.P. (FUN)By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor
Shares of Cedar Fair (FUN +5.8%) have been halted after Reuters reports Six Flags Entertainment (SIX -0.3%) has a made a bid to acquire the theme park company.
Cedar Fair is reportedly considering the offer.
Nasdaq indicates the current trading halt is due to volatility.
Cedar Fair-Six Flags merger report discounted
Oct. 2, 2019 12:40 PM ETCedar Fair, L.P. (FUN)By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor3 Comments
Wells Fargo isn't sure that a combination of Cedar Fair (NYSE:FUN) and Six Flags Entertainment (NYSE:SIX) makes sense.
The firm calls the Reuters report a "stretch" because Six Flags doesn't have a CEO, the two theme park cultures are much different and a substantial premium would be required to acquire FUN to cover tax considerations for shareholders.
Cedar Fair is now only up 2.22% and Six Flags is down 1.20%.
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Interesting but would be a horrible move on CF side.
CF is reasonably stable and offers a lot that SFI just doesn't. their parks would lose so much mostly in the area of customer service which SFI regularly lacks.
Let's not forget the level of debt hey would need to take on and what happened the last time SFI had that level fo debt.
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Ok, so I created an account with the website for a study abroad program yesterday and let Google make up the password. Today, I can get in so I make a new account and can't change anything because of the e-mail. I kind of want both accounts to get deleted and then I can start from scratch.
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And they say Technology is supposed to make our lives easier.
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Problem is solved though. Since I still have a bit over a year to get it in, I'm not going to rush with it; still have long-term assignments this semester to deal with and hopefully Dollywood in March.
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Is anyone else having issues with Google like when you try to search for something it can't connect to the internet even though its working. It started acting up after my ESET Antivirus updated. It mentions port 443, but I am not sure how to forget and reconnect Chrome without uninstalling it or disabling protection.
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Don't use Google too much, only ooff and on, But I have found that with both google and yahoo some times after my browser updates security keys don't match up and things get blocked. Could be an issue if your using a VPN
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Seemed it was a campus issue, pure coincidence that everything happened at the same time.
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One of the channels I'm subscribed to posted this in their community tab, https://youtu.be/pwnvjuCTb54
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Can't say I'm surprised that they dropped the ball.
I agree there should be a general content option. I like many here, I have a page and upload park content and it's not focused solely for kids or adults but everyone.
I have never geen a fan of the way Youtube sets up its content. It's too easy to be in a family-friendly video and stumble onto one that is not. I have for a while felt that videos should have a rating. similar to TV, movies, and video games. Viewers should then be able to agree or disagree with that rating and say whether it should be higher or lower.
I viewers must be signed in the suggestion he had Would eliminate the ability to report your videos on social media and forums like this.
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Happy New Decade.
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Happy New Year everybody!
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Happy New Year.
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I am shelving my plans to go to Dollywood at this point and plan to try and do Kentucky Kingdom, Holiday World, and Dollywood around Memorial Day to see my family in Indiana and a New York State trip (Doreny-PA, Coney Island-NYC, Legoland New York Grand Opening, Great Escape, Seabreeze, SF Darien Lake). Might try and get up to New England for opening weekend of first weekend of August. Ignoring Flashback, Goliath, Great Chase, and Hurricane Harbor regardless.
Based off that, I would say Viper would be my 100th and either King (a Schwarzkopf traveling coaster at Foire du Trone, a carnival/state fair type event in Paris held in April and May) or Zeus at Parc Astrix (depends if Sandy is open by the 22nd of the next month).
I will detail a more detailed extent of my study abroad in the fall.
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So are you skipping those rides at SFNE to control what will be your 100th?
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Great Chase is a kiddie coaster and I wouldn't be mad not getting the boomarangs as I'd probably come back up next when the park gets a new coaster (maybe a year after that). I don't care about water parks, and I want to ride Cyborg and Supergirl if its open on my visit (might try to go opening weekend, might wait til August).
Based off my updated list, crossing my fingers the Sandy is operating on 2/22 (not really needed to get there tbh-but still), Viper at Darian Lake would be number 100 and my first ride of that day. If Sandy's down that day, I'll just ride Tantrum first just because that's a low capacity ride. Best case scenario, which includes Flashback and Goliath, is 118 (+57), w/o boomarangs 116 (+55, from a count of 64). I did throw in Howler at Holiday World and Bear Trax on that list as I have family who live near holiday world and they might be tall enough to ride with "an adult" and Bear Trax might be a bit of a ****-I do have Wild Waves (but not Kosmo's Curves even though I've been to Knoebels twice).
Then the thing is with 2021 as it looks like it might end up being Zeus at Parc Astrix or one of the coasters at Foire Du Trone-which is a fair held in Paris from April til June, and that trip could end up dropping a +58, and still missing 5 major coasters (Trailbalzer-have seemed to never find the rides entrance, Wild Mouse-always busy, Sidewinder-which i've heard is a good boomarang, Fahrenheit-because I didn't ride a coaster with a vertical lift til Impulse in 2016 and IDK why not on opening day 2017, and Candymonium-obviously) plus Coca Cruiser and the Water Coaster-which doesn't count.
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It sounds like quite the undertaking. I normally ride all the coasters I can get one. It's not a credit thing it's simply trying to take in as much as the park has to offer. some of the smaller family kidie ride can be more enjoyable then some of the bigger options at the park.
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Our motto is "we ride 'em all - big and small" Sure there are tons of wacky worms and such out there but every once in a while you run into a kiddie coaster that is a hoot. The old Knoebels kiddie, High Speed Thrill Coaster, (gone but not forgotten) that was 200 ft long 18 feet high with a drop of 12 feet comes to mind as a kiddie coaster that was more fun than many full size coasters we have ridden over the years.
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I agree. I was very surprised by how enjoyable the wood kiddie coster at playland was.
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I'm considering at this point been a blogger while I'm in Madrid in Spring 2021 for AIFS (the service I'm going through) because I feel my unique perspective being on the Autism Spectrum and thought process, alongside content for my channel. If that works out, I feel it would be better to promote it on the Facebook, but have it as a thread in the Misc chat (one for each blog, plus one for the vlogs). I'm just going to get a clearer bit on what my college needs from all of this the day after tomorrow in hopes that everything is signed off by the end of the semester (first full week of May).
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Sounds interesting.
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I thought Palace was only used for Parques Reunidos in the US. Apparently, Palace operates Raging Waters [Wet 'n Wild] Sydney. They also operate the Cartoon Network Hotel.
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I never really got why they opted to have Palace operate the Wet n.Wild Sydney. Maybe they feel it's mostly self-sufficient and they don't end the higher-end management.
Sadly Palace is a very lazy operator. While LC has done reasonably well mostly due to the dedication Jerry has as a GM. Story land has only seen a coupe additions and Water Country has seen 1 addition in a decade.
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Water Parks, I'm not surprised they wouldn't add something new every year, maybe 2-3 a decade (Unless they were really gunning for something huge like that slide wheel, then I'd see why only the 1 to save for that).
Besides, most of them are FEC based (even Castle Park in California is more of a FEC like ZDT's in Texas). Kennywood is definitely the Flagship (as it was before the acquisition) with 2020 seeming to be the first off year since 2015 (sort of. 2015 was a 4D theater and 2020 is Steelers Country pt. 2)
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Except their last addition wasn't terribly big its was aDr Von Dark Mini tantrum clone. in the over 10 years Water country has done nothing in New England every other water park or park with attached water park has expanded their offerings. in fact, just about every stand along park has expanded more than once.
But despite this lack of expansion, they are still the largest waterpark in New England.
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^And they continue to draw good crowds all summer. Why add if you are selling tickets without the expense? Clearly they have determined that any increase in gate that comes with new attractions won't be enough to offset the cost of the attraction. No ROI = no new attractions. It is actually good business. If the gate diminishes too much they will have to react but so far that does not seem to be the case.
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I get your argument, and I'm not going today your wrong. but if that's the case then why to parks like Clark's, Santa's Village and Whales tale make additions. They are in a tourist area with built-in marketing and draw. Your saying Palace is being smart. in the years where palace only added 1 attraction to Water Country, they added 2 to Story land. A Splash battle that required the removal of half another attraction and a wood coaster. They have also rethemed an attraction So Palace is doing the right thing.
So then are the other parks, not making good business choices? Santa's Village makes a capital improvement or addition every year. Their additions have been every 2-3 years. A tubing hill and a spinning coaster. 2 water park expansions. Whales take has added to eh water park every 2-3 years. Clark's has closed an attraction replaced it with a shooting gallery and added a water coaster bought off of Six Gun City.
None of these parks are setting attendance records they expand within their means. before being bought Story land added an attraction pretty much every other year. Water country every 3-5 years. So is this really just good business or are they simply funneling the profits for water country to bigger additions at parks like Kennywood?
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So is this really just good business or are they simply funneling the profits for water country to bigger additions at parks like Kennywood?
Steel Curtain is a prototype. Kennywood also has nowhere to go (road/parking lot on one side, cliffs on 2 [one leads to a rail line], and housing on the 4th). The only areas I feel would be is in front of Exterminator (splash boats, whip) and maybe a tower ride (star flyer more likely as they lost a drop tower once) in the final turn. I'd say Auto Race and the rapids could be next. Anything else would sacrifice pavilions, backstage, and residential (the latter would probably only work with Exterminator's removal).
However, looking at Kennywood on maps, I'm wondering how long an out and back coaster, whose station is between Black Widow and Exterminator, that excluding the lift and break run (maybe a helix) paralleling the Allegheny Passage trail to the Rankin Bridge would steal Steel Dragon's length record. Not saying it would happen-because it is almost certain it won't but for science.
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Good info though I think you missed my point in that line.
With Steel Curtain in place hopefully, they can lay low for a bit and let other parks spend some money.
But if you look at the last few years the focus has been on the amusement parks and not on the waterparks.
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That was just a what if, and also very long term (12-20 years) if it were to actually happen.
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I think the strategy of additional attractions in dry parks and water parks may be very different. The competition is different and the expectations of the patrons may be different also. So comparing the strtegy at Water Country to Story Land is probably apples to oranges.
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Perhaps, mostly pointing out a property within the same company in a tourist area with a built-in draw.
That aside let us look at area waterparks. Every park with an added waterpark has added one or more attractions in the last decade. Every stand-alone water park in New England has added one or more attractions since Dr. Von Dark was added to the water country. Yes with the fact Water Country is the largest stand along with waterpark in New England they have less of a need to expand. but over 10 years is a bit nuts.
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How many Batman Arena's still stand:
-New England removed there's for Dark Knight (cancelled), then put Gauntlet there
-Magic Mountain removed there's for Justice League
-Great Adventure uses there's for Dead Man's Party
-America's is still standing, but I don't know if its used at all
-Kentucky Kingdom uses their's for Bird Shows
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SFOG still has theires but they have started to take over the old Pre show Queue lot for rides.
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I was looking at Over Georgia and got thinking:
-Lickskillet should be renamed boardwalk as that is the main theme I see, could probably includes the pavilions in that (but I don't care)
-create a new area out of Georgia and USA
-add Peachtree (where Acraphobia is) and Coastal (Where there RMC Cyclone is) to the Promenade (main entrance) area
-could add another entrance.
-They could probably move the Sky Coaster to where the Axis Arena is and scrap Great American Scream Machine to expand the water park (which they may not need to for a long time).
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Their Western area is one of the best I have seen. very well themed. I agree I know it seems small but it's a great area. Past that is a boardwalk themed area. the American Boardwalk is where Superman ultimate flight is located. It really doesn't need to be expanded since the Waterpark plays into the theme.
create a new area out of Georgia and USA? What do you mean by this? They already have the Antibelom area which represents GA during that period. They have a 50's area it's where Goliath can be found. This is like the western area very well themed expect for Goliath's entrance. Keep in mind SFOG was built as a theme park it wasn't an amusement park turned theme park
add Peachtree (where Acrophobia is) and Coastal (Where there RMC Cyclone is) to the Promenade (main entrance) area? again not sure what you're hoping to do here. are you talking signage Cyclone is part of the Antebellum area? and GA's Coastline is nothing special or worth promoting.
could add another entrance. They used to have another entrance it was in the back of the park by GASM. It was removed in the late '90s around the time Viper was added.
They could probably move the Sky Coaster to where the Axis Arena is and scrap Great American Scream Machine to expand the water park (which they may not need to for a long time).
Wouldn't open up much room The sky coaster uses very little space and GASM goes around a pond. Which by the way floods. So it wouldn;t really help. Sure GASM is not the best wood coaster out there but now its there only wood coaster.
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I was mainly thinking of replacing Blue Hawk with a Vekoma eventually.
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I haven't had a chance to ride blue hawk with the new trains. I road it a few times in the '90s the coaster overall is really good. I know it got shacky but if the new trains help with any headbanging like the new trains on Riddler It can't be that bad of a ride nowadays.
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Had a rough day get back home from college. Going online from the 30th. I think the famous David Bianculli regrets not giving midterm, but also doesn't regret sharing The Ruttles with us either.
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just my opinion but Six Flags should wait til all their 2020 additions are done and postpone all 2021 additions except Magic Mountian's because they technically got nothing for 2019 or 2020 depending on Member previews vs Grand Opening of WCR
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After the financial devastation of the pandemic is done, don't be surprised if SFI and many other groups don't add for 2021, 2022 and maybe longer. The only thing even close to this in our lifetime is 911. The economic disruption of this, will make 911 economic problems look small.
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Parks especially chains that rely on early year attendance will see a big impact on their bottom lines and will have to adjust. It's too early to predict how long this will last and how it will affect parks that generally do the bulk of their business I summer with little to no early season.
I do agree SFI would be smart to dramatically scale back their additions. but moderately priced capital improvements should still be done.
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Looks like Great Adventure, Doreny, and Cedar Point might not have a season, and Hershey will probably open as soon as Canymonium is approved or when Wolf approves, which ever is best.
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Barber Shops and the like can't open til the Green Phase in PA, yet New Orleans is opening them not at 25% capacity. I feel that is the best comparison in terms of density even though it wasn't as hard hit as the North East or Seattle.
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Density may be the same but how are numbers comparing. sadly the reopening course seems to be in some cases very politically and not scientifically driven.
I think that if numbers are stable or dropping, capacity is limited and it's by appointment only salons and barbershops can open. You can do everything supposedly right and still get this. My grandfather was admitted to the hospital yesterday and tested positive. he lives in assisted living and I have had minimal interaction with him only dropping off a few store items to the staff and was no more than 2 arms lengths from him for less than a minute.
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Most cases in PA are from Nursing Homes and children
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Apparently Cedar Fair owned more land on the other side of the road from SeaWorld/Wildwater Kingdom and looks like construction will begin on a housing development over there. Still nothing on park proper though.
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interesting. I do think tat land will continue to be hard to sell.
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According to the SEA earnings call, it looks like they want to aqquire smaller amusement parks and Water Parks to turn into Sesame Places, as well as manage hotels.
Top locations:
-Texas, there used to be one near Over Texas. However, I say Houston as they only have two (albeit seemingly awesome) boardwalk parks.
-Ohio, maybe they could take back Geauge Lake or do something with the Columbus Zoo.
-Acquire Parque Sesamo in Monterrey, I think this would be a good test to expand internationally (possibly Canada)
-Acquire Schlitterbahn Kansas City, I think this is a big risk but I think PA for the North East; SoCal; Florida w/ SeaWorld Orlando; and TX for the South a mid-west option is a good one.
-If things go Well: Washington State, Ontario, and another in the deep south might work.
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Interesting news. I think it would be a good idea to buy other small parks to make more sesame places as long as they don't take over a park that is truly iconic that could backfire.
I agree they should buy the Kansas City property. that property has enough room that outside fo the water park, which should first be rebranded, They could build both a sesame place and a Busch Gardens.
I also like the idea of Rebuildingon the Guarga lake property. I think locals would love to see a park return but if they do this they should make a point to add in a small Geauga Lake inspired area on top of the sesame place. thing Seaworld Orland but instead of sea world you rebuild a properly sized GL
park section.
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I don't think we will see New SeaWorlds/Busch Gardens unless its like the Dubai project or acquire a major park that can easily be swapped over. I can only think of Marineland in Ontario in that regard. I'd consider dropping the Busch name so I don't have to pay InBev the royalties to stave off bankruptcy, but I don't run SeaWorld.
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I get your point though Marineland would do batter as a Seaworld since it's already a marine life park. but From what I hear Marineland won't be going away anytime soon.
I can see at least one more Busch Gardens but what I was proposing was not an all in year one sort of thing. They already would have the water park the sesame place would be an easy build-up at a much lower cost. A second bigger park would be further down the line.
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Happy National Roller Coaster Day
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well im back from the wedding hahaha ready to rock with the grove show tonight way too many crazy memories and what I wanted was a wedding to never forget and I got that! Between my mom and I dancing into the pool, the cake fight and more hahaha then the honeymoon was awesome in florida! we even got knighted at medievil times hahah
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Glad everything went well.
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It was worth going to florida when we did with minimal lines, minimal people and had a blast! Then being a crazy person and stepping off the plane go home for like an hour and go to 13th World that day and work lol
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Did you know there's an old superstation about leaving Christmas decorations up after Three Kings Day/Epiphany?
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I've heard of Epiphany but no Superstitions surrounding it. but generally out decorations don't last a week past new years.