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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2020, 12:00:10 pm »
Great Chase is a kiddie coaster and I wouldn't be mad not getting the boomarangs as I'd probably come back up next when the park gets a new coaster (maybe a year after that). I don't care about water parks, and I want to ride Cyborg and Supergirl if its open on my visit (might try to go opening weekend, might wait til August).

Based off my updated list, crossing my fingers the Sandy is operating on 2/22 (not really needed to get there tbh-but still), Viper at Darian Lake would be number 100 and my first ride of that day. If Sandy's down that day, I'll just ride Tantrum first just because that's a low capacity ride. Best case scenario, which includes Flashback and Goliath, is 118 (+57), w/o boomarangs 116 (+55, from a count of 64). I did throw in Howler at Holiday World and Bear Trax on that list as I have family who live near holiday world and they might be tall enough to ride with "an adult" and Bear Trax might be a bit of a ****-I do have Wild Waves (but not Kosmo's Curves even though I've been to Knoebels twice).

Then the thing is with 2021 as it looks like it might end up being Zeus at Parc Astrix or one of the coasters at Foire Du Trone-which is a fair held in Paris from April til June, and that trip could end up dropping a +58, and still missing 5 major coasters (Trailbalzer-have seemed to never find the rides entrance, Wild Mouse-always busy, Sidewinder-which i've heard is a good boomarang, Fahrenheit-because I didn't ride a coaster with a vertical lift til Impulse in 2016 and IDK why not on opening day 2017, and Candymonium-obviously) plus Coca Cruiser and the Water Coaster-which doesn't count.
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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2020, 06:02:40 pm »
It sounds like quite the undertaking. I normally ride all the coasters I can get one. It's not a credit thing it's simply trying to take in as much as the park has to offer. some of the smaller family kidie ride can be more enjoyable then some of the bigger options at the park.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 15, 2020, 01:02:24 pm »
Our motto is "we ride 'em all - big and small"  Sure there are tons of wacky worms and such out there but every once in a while you run into a kiddie coaster that is a hoot.  The old Knoebels kiddie, High Speed Thrill Coaster, (gone but not forgotten) that was 200 ft long 18 feet high with a drop of 12 feet comes to mind as a kiddie coaster that was more fun than many full size coasters we have ridden over the years.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 16, 2020, 01:51:20 am »
I agree. I was very surprised by how enjoyable the wood kiddie coster at playland was.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2020, 11:07:39 am »
I'm considering at this point been a blogger while I'm in Madrid in Spring 2021 for AIFS (the service I'm going through) because I feel my unique perspective being on the Autism Spectrum and thought process, alongside content for my channel. If that works out, I feel it would be better to promote it on the Facebook, but have it as a thread in the Misc chat (one for each blog, plus one for the vlogs). I'm just going to get a clearer bit on what my college needs from all of this the day after tomorrow in hopes that everything is signed off by the end of the semester (first full week of May).
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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2020, 04:57:10 pm »
Sounds interesting.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2020, 01:27:24 pm »
I thought Palace was only used for Parques Reunidos in the US. Apparently, Palace operates Raging Waters [Wet 'n Wild] Sydney. They also operate the Cartoon Network Hotel.
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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2020, 09:15:16 am »
I never really got why they opted to have Palace operate the Wet n.Wild Sydney. Maybe they feel it's mostly self-sufficient and they don't end the higher-end management.

Sadly Palace is a very lazy operator. While LC has done reasonably well mostly due to the dedication Jerry has as a GM. Story land has only seen a coupe additions and Water Country has seen 1 addition in a decade.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2020, 11:50:58 am »
Water Parks, I'm not surprised they wouldn't add something new every year, maybe 2-3 a decade (Unless they were really gunning for something huge like that slide wheel, then I'd see why only the 1 to save for that).

Besides, most of them are FEC based (even Castle Park in California is more of a FEC like ZDT's in Texas). Kennywood is definitely the Flagship (as it was before the acquisition) with 2020 seeming to be the first off year since 2015 (sort of. 2015 was a 4D theater and 2020 is Steelers Country pt. 2)
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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 30, 2020, 01:39:04 am »
Except their last addition wasn't terribly big its was aDr Von Dark Mini tantrum clone.  in the over 10 years Water country has done nothing in New England every other water park or park with attached water park has expanded their offerings. in fact, just about every stand along park has expanded more than once.

But despite this lack of expansion, they are still the largest waterpark in New England.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2020, 10:29:35 am »
^And they continue to draw good crowds all summer.  Why add if you are selling tickets without the expense?  Clearly they have determined that any increase in gate that comes with new attractions won't be enough to offset the cost of the attraction.  No ROI = no new attractions.  It is actually good business.  If the gate diminishes too much they will have to react but so far that does not seem to be the case.   

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2020, 12:01:12 pm »
I get your argument, and I'm not going today your wrong.  but if that's the case then why to parks like Clark's, Santa's Village and Whales tale make additions. They are in a tourist area with built-in marketing and draw. Your saying Palace is being smart. in the years where palace only added 1 attraction to Water Country, they added 2 to Story land. A Splash battle that required the removal of half another attraction and a wood coaster. They have also rethemed an attraction  So Palace is doing the right thing.

So then are the other parks, not making good business choices? Santa's Village makes a capital improvement or addition every year. Their additions have been every 2-3 years. A tubing hill and a spinning coaster. 2 water park expansions. Whales take has added to eh water park every 2-3 years. Clark's has closed an attraction replaced it with a shooting gallery and added a water coaster bought off of Six Gun City.

None of these parks are setting attendance records they expand within their means.  before being bought Story land added an attraction pretty much every other year. Water country every 3-5 years. So is this really just good business or are they simply funneling the profits for water country to bigger additions at parks like Kennywood?

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2020, 12:53:34 pm »
So is this really just good business or are they simply funneling the profits for water country to bigger additions at parks like Kennywood?

Steel Curtain is a prototype. Kennywood also has nowhere to go (road/parking lot on one side, cliffs on 2 [one leads to a rail line], and housing on the 4th). The only areas I feel would be is in front of Exterminator (splash boats, whip) and maybe a tower ride (star flyer more likely as they lost a drop tower once) in the final turn. I'd say Auto Race and the rapids could be next. Anything else would sacrifice pavilions, backstage, and residential (the latter would probably only work with Exterminator's removal).

However, looking at Kennywood on maps, I'm wondering how long an out and back coaster, whose station is between Black Widow and Exterminator, that excluding the lift and break run (maybe a helix) paralleling the Allegheny Passage trail to the Rankin Bridge would steal Steel Dragon's length record. Not saying it would happen-because it is almost certain it won't but for science.
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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2020, 10:47:47 pm »
Good info though I think you missed my point in that line.

With Steel Curtain in place hopefully, they can lay low for a bit and let other parks spend some money.

But if you look at the last few years the focus has been on the amusement parks and not on the waterparks.

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Re: The Never Ending Pointless Thread
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2020, 01:40:54 pm »
That was just a what if, and also very long term (12-20 years) if it were to actually happen.
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